Roundtable: What is Wilmer Flores’ trade value?

Tuesday’s column on Wilmer Flores drew a strong reaction so I thought I would ask my friends in the blogosphere about his trade value.  I asked them to respond to the following questions:

Flores is 21 and playing at Triple-A, one of the four youngest full-time position players in the PCL.  He also was not ranked in any major preseason Top 100 list and has gotten off to a so-so start despite his hitter-friendly home park.  What’s his trade value?  What 1-for-1 deal where the Mets would trade Flores and get back an MLB player would both teams say “yes” to?

These people all do great work and their names are hyperlinked to their blogs so please go ahead and click on them to check out their real stuff.

Ed Marcus – In the lead to replace Jeff Hanneman

Honestly I wouldn’t trade Flores at this juncture. In 43 games he is proving to be a good top of the order player (.265 avg, 4 homers & 28 rbi’s with average obp & slugging %. Problem is his range at shortstop is limited & may be too slow for the outfield. If I could do a one for one trade I have the sinking suspicion all I could get at this junction would be a decent middle reliever or fourth outfielder.

Eric Stashin – Turned down offer to replace Matthew Berry

Giving a trade value for Flores is difficult as he has the feeling of being a notoriously “overhyped” New York prospect.  We’ve long heard about his upside, yet we have never fully seen it.  He also appears to be a player without a position, giving him the feel of Daniel Murphy v2.0, just without the Major League pedigree.

Unfortunately I don’t think we can reasonably expect the Mets to get more than a mid-level reliever, or a better player whose contract is about to expire, if we are looking at a 1-for-1 deal.  How much value is there really for a player without a position who is hitting .267 with 4 HR in the PCL?

The better situation would probably be pairing him with one of their young pitching prospects to yield a better return.  Otherwise the likely return would probably make it much more valuable to the Mets to stay patient and see if he realizes his potential.

Michael Geus – Dreams of being the lead in Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place

I don’t see any 1-1 deal that is worth it. As you mention, Flores is not a top major league prospect right now.  If we traded him for a current major leaguer we would get back roster filler, unless it is a salary dump. If it’s a salary dump we probably wouldn’t have to even include Flores. Wilmer is still only 21 and his best path to being a productive major league player is at the position he is finally at. I say finally as I have wanted him at second for at least three years now, short was always a pipedream and David Wright always existed.

If there is a match with another team for on outfield version of Flores and they need an infielder maybe that could work one-for-one. I am not enough of an expert on the minor league scene to know what teams would have excess non-top 100 outfield prospects.

I do think Wilmer could get dealt but not one-for-one. At this stage he seems like a guy who could help sweeten a three-or-four-for-one deal if we ever decide to do anything major. There is no rush do do anything with him either, he is still younger than Kevin Plawecki, who is in Low A, and who gets mentioned as a prospect.

Jon Springer – Laughs at the numbers lead in Numb3rs

I have to answer this question hypothetically, since I think the last thing the Mets can afford to do at the moment is trade a young position player with upside, even if he’s not off to a good start. And getting the Mets and a counterpart to say “yes” at this time of year seems like a longshot. That said, I think Flores given his limited ability to help a team immediately is probably worth a back-of-the-rotation starter or maybe a corner outfielder who could represent a small upgrade over Byrd. But, I don’t much want the Mets to make that trade. What the Mets ought to be doing is figuring out which of the young arms they’re developing they can best afford to trade, in an attempt to collect more Flores-ness in the high minors, and you know, give that kid a first baseman’s mitt.

John Coppinger – Wishes police would stop coming to him to get leads

See, if I was doing this through a video game, I could probably get Mike Trout for Flores under the right circumstances. But if we’re talking about real life … man, I’m horrible at these. If I was any good at these I’d be a GM. But how about Andre Ethier? I’m sure the Dodgers will want to get out of some of their salary, and with Ethier seemingly falling out of favor with the Dodgers that would seem to be the perfect salary to erase for them. Mets get an outfielder, Dodgers get somebody for third base if they want to move Hanley Ramirez back to shortstop … or second base if they don’t. I still want Trout though.


It seems like nobody has an outrageous opinion of Flores’ trade value at this point. The best course of action is to let him continue to get at-bats, hope he takes a step forward and that he is not one of the rare players who peaked at age 16.


Thanks to Ed, Eric, Michael, Jon and John for participating!

7 comments for “Roundtable: What is Wilmer Flores’ trade value?

  1. 3doza33
    May 23, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Not much trade value right now and would be stupid to trade him 1 for 1… He’s very very young! If you think about it, Middlebrooks for the sox was 24 last year when he got called up! Flores is only 21!!!! Let tge kid adjust to AAA! Remember our plan is patience! By the end of the year, I guarantee he will figure it all out! He never strikes out! His bat is always on the ball! Signs of a great hitter! Next year he will still be one of the youngest hitters in AAA and will be tearing the ball off the cover! Let it happen people and we will be rewarded!

  2. za
    May 23, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    Agreed with the guys above. Flores is worth more to us right now or as part of a package deal than he is as a 1:1 trade candidate. As has been mentioned, he’s one of the youngest guys in the league but at the same time, he isn’t putting up above average offensive numbers. To have significant trade value, he’ll have to start mashing or some GM and his staff will have to decide that they’re willing to take the risk on him. Right now, I think the Mets are waiting to see what they’ve got; he’s on the 40-man and we’re going to let him develop.

  3. Jerry Grote
    May 23, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    I don’t think any Mets fan believed you could get anything for Flores one-for-one. But that’s about the most ridiculous standard I’ve seen.

    What are you going to get for any prospect that isn’t in the top 50?

    Look at the Wheeler/Beltran deal. First of all, consensus then and now was Sandy fleeced Sabean. He traded an expensive rental player, and SF had to give up its best pitching prospect. Let’s not hold Flores up to a silly standard.

  4. steevy
    May 23, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    A Slayer reference!RIP Jeff Hanneman,his memorial was today.

  5. May 23, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    Why not wait and see before making an assessment like that. Give him a full season in AAA and then you can start to place a value on him. He’s only 21 and not even considered a top 100 prospect.

  6. Dan Stack
    May 24, 2013 at 4:21 am

    Agree, simply too young to give up on.
    BTW, Brian, how do you come up with those remarks about all the bloggers. Pretty humorous. Do you know all these guys on a personal basis to get the info you do to describe them? I wonder if I was writing for a different site, what would be used to describe me. LOL.

  7. JimO
    May 24, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    I think you have to wait on Flores too. He’s ranked in the Mets top 10. You have to see if he begins moving up in overall charts. If he doesn’t start moving up, then you look to deal. The Mets certainly can wait and do a full assessment at the end of the season.

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