Why I’m anti-Pirates

Ok so we made a deal with the Pittsburgh Pirates recently acquiring Vic Black and Dilson Herrera in exchange for Marlon Byrd and John Buck. We seem to have made out well and pretty much everyone seems happy with this deal.

…and it is sort of nice to see the Pirates doing well after having been down for so long. In fact, it sort of gives me hope that the Mets will also see their fortunes turn before too long.

…but you know, I grew up anti-Pirate and its hard to shake that attitude.

Here are some reasons why:

1. We dealt Duffy Dyer to them. I’ve previously written about this event but to recap, we dealt Dyer to the Pirates on October 22, 1974 in exchange for Gene Clines. Oh the horror!

2. Their offense routinely tortured the Mets pitchers for years in the 70s. With players like Dave Parker, Bill Madlock, Manny Sanguillen, and Al Oliver, it was often excrutiating.

3. They had the productive Bobby Bonilla years. We had the desctructive Bobby Bonilla years (actually we had them twice!). Oh, and we’re still paying him.

4. They had the productive Jason Bay years. We had the phizzle years.

5. John Milner came back from Texas to play for them from 1978-1982.

Wally Backman6. Wally Backman came back from Minnesota to play for them in 1990.

7. Dock Ellis beat the Mets 11 times including two shutouts in 22 careers starts against us. When he pitched for us, he won three games in 14 starts.

8. The biggest reason though is non-other-than Willie Stargell. In the early eighties, my Friend Fitz ended up with two extra tickets to Banner Day. We got to Shea Stadium just in time to get into the end of the parade. There were may two or three banners behind us. We had an old banner that his little brother had made; I think it said, “Go-Go Mets”. There may have even been holes in the o’s for us to peek our heads out or something like that. Anyway. Fitz was on the right and I was on the left as we headed in from center field. We came down the left field line. I was checking out the crushed brick and scenes from the field when Fitz yelled out, “That’s Stargell standing at the top stairs of the visitor’s dugout.” Quickly, Fitz filled me in on how Stargell had come to his college (St. Francis University in Loretto, Pennsylvania) and delivered this motivational speech about “We are Family” and what a great inspiration he was as a player and a person. And this is all happening quickly. And he gets right up in front of Stargell and he yells out to him, “Hey Willie; Hey Pops! I was at St. Francis when you gave us your speech! You’re great!” …and Willie looks at Fitz carrying this Mets banner and gives him this total look of disdain and says, “Keep movin’, kid.”

So just as Stargell dashed many a Met pitcher’s hope of a victory and ruined their day; he, likewise, ruined Banner Day.

9 comments for “Why I’m anti-Pirates

  1. steevy
    September 7, 2013 at 8:42 pm

    Bonilla had 1 and a half good years with the Mets.I try to see the silver lining.

  2. September 7, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    But they had the greatest Puerto Rican player of all time Roberto Clemente. My first game ever was at Shea when the Mets played the Pirates. I remember Ed Kranepool hit a deep fly to right. Bud Harrelson raced back to third to tag up. My father said watch the throw to home plate. Clemente caught the ball at the edge of the warning track and threw a laser on the FLY to the catcher. Harrelson slides in just barely beating the throw. To this day that memory is etched in my mind.

  3. steevy
    September 7, 2013 at 10:01 pm

    Glad to here Bud beat the throw!

  4. kjs
    September 7, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    So many Eastern rivalries lost the past twenty years with interleague, expansions, relocations, uneven scheduling… Makes the game duller. (But) hey, don’t mind flopping against the Tribe this weekend.

    It’s hard to explain to anyone under 40 why I loathe the Cubs,

  5. September 7, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    None needed!

  6. Dan Stack
    September 8, 2013 at 1:04 am

    I guess everyone has their reasons, but no team should have 22 years of losing baseball. I wish that on no one.

  7. September 8, 2013 at 1:11 am

    Could be worse. Could be a Cub fan.

  8. Jim OMalley
    September 8, 2013 at 7:24 am

    And don’t even ask why I don’t like the Angels.

  9. September 8, 2013 at 7:45 am

    Jim Fregosi?

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