Draft Review: Could the Mets have done better?

ny_mets_logoI decided to walk down the hallowed halls of what might have been had we scouted better or made better decisions of draft day.  I can’t say much about 2013 just yet but I’ll be looking at picks starting in 2012 and looking at who the “Met Masterminds” may have missed the boat on.

2012

Who We Got:

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

  • Mike Wacha, SP (Currently looking dominant in the majors)
  • Plawecki looks pretty good…
  • Alex Wood, SP (Current starter for the Braves)

2011

Who We Got:

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

2010

Who We Got:

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

2009

Who We Got:

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

  • Patrick Corbin, SP (Ace of the Diamondbacks)
  • Jacob Marisnick, OF (Promising CF for Marlins)
  • Brandon Belt, 1B (Breakout year in MLB for Giants)

2008

Who We Got:

  • Ike Davis, 1B (Dismal year in MLB)
  • Reese Havens, SS (Fallen off the radar in AAA)
  • Brad Holt, SP (Gone and forgotten)

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

2007

Who We Got:

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

2006

Who We Got:

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

2005

Who We Got:

  • Mike Pelfrey, SP (Some solid years)
  • Hector Pellot, 2B (Former organizational fodder)
  • Andrew Butera, C (Bullpen catcher somewhere… I think)

Who We COULD HAVE Gotten:

You might notice, as I did that the Mets often handicapped themselves.  They’d be looking at drafting only one or two players in the first four (if you include supplemental) rounds.  It’s no question that this neglecting the draft has led to the years of obscurity as the team needed a farm and had none. The other truth is that most teams guess wrong and while they COULD have gotten McCutchen,  Kipnis, Corbin and Wacha it proves that scouting is NOT a perfect science.

I looked back as far as 1993 and truthfully… the Mets don’t get their success through their own minors.  The team for the past twenty years has gotten their success through trading and signing free agents.  I would say that as a whole, Sandy Alderson has drafted better than Omar Minaya or Steve Phillips. Sure Cecchini looks like a massive stinker, but how much worse is that pick than most of these:

  • 1993: Kirk Presley (8th Overall)
  • 1994: Paul Wilson (1st Overall)
  • 1995: Ryan Jaroncyk (18th Overall)
  • 1996: Robert Stratton (13th Overall)
  • 1997: Geoff Goetz (6th Overall)
  • 1998: Jason Tyner (21st Overall)
  • 1999: Neal Musser (73rd Overall)
  • 2000: Billy Traber (16th Overall)
  • 2001: Aaron Heilman (18th Overall)
  • 2002: Scott Kazmir (15th Overall) [But REALLY… Victor Zambrano]
  • 2003: Lastings Milledge (12th Overall)
  • 2004: Philip Humber (3rd Overall)
  • 2005: Michael Pelfrey (9th Overall)
  • 2006: Kevin Mulvey (62nd Overall)
  • 2007: Eddie Kunz (42nd Overall)
  • 2008: Ike Davis (18th Overall)
  • 2009: Steven Matz (72nd Overall)
  • 2010: Matt Harvey (7th Overall) [The exception that proves the rule]
  • 2011: Brandon Nimmo (13th Overall)
  • 2012: Gavin Cecchini (12th Overall)
  • 2013: Dominic Smith (11th Overall)

20 comments for “Draft Review: Could the Mets have done better?

  1. Name
    October 22, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    If the goal was to judge Met GM’s to other GM’s, perhaps you could look at the percentage of players that we could have drafted that turned out better than what we did pick.
    Also, this doesn’t definitely say that Met GM’s are bad drafters; there are other factors at play. We could actually be really good drafts, but just very bad at developing them (choosing when to promote them).

    If the goal was to dream, good job.

    • October 22, 2013 at 3:04 pm

      The goal was to look at Met GMs and how they’ve drafted. I’ve seen a lot of comments bashing Alderson’s drafts and I don’t think I can grade him worse than anyone in recent memory.

      • Name
        October 22, 2013 at 3:23 pm

        Ok. Just wanted to make it known that there are other factors at play that determines whether a player is deemed a success or not. Most of outside of the GM’s control, but there is one other big factor that the GM does control, which is when to promote a player.

        Fernandez appears on the COULD HAVE gotten list because someone in the Marlins organization was brazen enough to want to call him up, a method that we saw fail multiple times under Minaya. In an alternate universe, Fernandez could have been called up next year and had a so-so debut.

        • October 22, 2013 at 3:26 pm

          That’s clearly a factor too.

          I think the big thing is that the next time someone bemoans Cecchini, Nimmo or Smith as first rounders you could point to the previous GMs and ask “Who did it better?”

          • Name
            October 22, 2013 at 5:05 pm

            I guess that’s how one can justify staying sane. In all honestly, the real goal should be to the best in the game, and not to compare just within the organization. It’s like saying that he got the highest score in his class, but the score is still well below the average when you compare it to all other classes.

            • October 22, 2013 at 5:10 pm

              We’re grading on a curve and frankly… Alderson could still have some pretty quality names attached to his record by the end of 2015… if he lasts that long.

  2. steevy
    October 22, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Mets got the wrong Cecchini

  3. steevy
    October 22, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Mets got the wrong Cecchini.

  4. steevy
    October 22, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Sorry for the double post.

  5. October 23, 2013 at 1:12 am

    It just seems that the Mets draft choices as a whole by their scouts don’t amount to much. What percentage of players drafted by the Mets reach the Major League level? Looking at your list do the Mets still have the same people in place handling the scouting department? Just think about it. The Miami Marlins whose ownership is despised (probably by all) has 2 World Series rings in 20 years of existence. The Mets…zero. Whether it’s true or not, the Mets seem to prefer to draft kids out of high school rather than the college senior who could have an impact sooner than later. Sometimes later never comes. It just seems to be a crap shot. Of the players you listed that the Mets could of taken,where were they ranked by the Mets?

  6. Upset met
    October 24, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    It just makes me wonder how these failed players the mets drafted were ranked on other teams lists… I mean was Humber,Pelf, Kunz,Heilman,millage and the other scrubs all on the top of everyone’s list? There’s no way … The scouting could’ve been better by of course not … I understand every team blows some draft picks but c’mon there’s no way the mets front office did all they could to ensure a good pick … I mean 2006 and 2007 was a horrible draft for them … I mean not one impact player… It’s just a shame it really is

    • Name
      October 24, 2013 at 8:40 pm

      06 produced Daniel Murphy for the Mets. It also produced Joe Smith, who has become a pretty solid reliever for the Indians.
      07 produced Dillon Gee and Lucas Duda.

      • October 25, 2013 at 10:51 am

        Mets have not been known for hitting many home runs in the early rounds of the draft. Matt Harvey is the notable exception.

  7. October 24, 2013 at 11:19 pm

    I believe upset fan said IMPACT player.

  8. Michael S.
    October 25, 2013 at 10:47 am

    You missed Giancarlo Stanton who went 76th in 2007 and could have been picked with either of their 1st round picks….the ones wasted on relievers.

    Mets also could have had Giolito and McCullers in 2012, both top 50 prospects right now.

    • October 25, 2013 at 10:51 am

      You know why I missed it…

      because he was listed as Mike Stanton LOL

      • Michael S.
        October 25, 2013 at 10:57 am

        LOL! That sure is one I wish they had back…it’s never okay to draft relievers in the first.

  9. Upset met
    October 25, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    To clarify I meant 2006 was a wasted draft … Nothing towards joe smith .. Mighty fine reliever and I’m sure he’s a nice guy too but he was the only pick worth something by the mets that year … Each pick after was a bust … That’s absurd and unacceptable … You cannot tell me there was nothing they could do … This is why they have no depth with a few exceptions they drafted horribly .. It’s just u acceptable to me

    • Name
      October 25, 2013 at 10:41 pm

      I just looked at the 06 draft and it looks like the Mets were one of only 6 teams with at least 2 players drafted who have posted at least 7 bWAR so far(Smith and Murphy). I hardly call that unacceptable.

  10. Upset met
    October 25, 2013 at 9:06 pm

    We also missed Allen Craig that year … We took Nathan Hedrick instead

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