Where does Terry Collins rank in comparison to other managers of the New York Mets? When Collins reign is over, what will his legacy be?
There have been twenty managers of the Mets. Davey Johnson managed more games (at 1,012) than anyone, followed closely by Bobby Valentine (at 1,003). Collins has managed 383 games (when this article was written); this places him tenth on the list. Assuming he finishes the seaon, he will pass Jerry Manuel (at 417 games) and finish 9th on the all-time list.
Collins has amassed 174 victories, one behind non-other than Casey Stengel. This places him 10th on the all-time victory list. Again, by the end of the current season, he will be in a position to surpass Jerry Manuel who won 204 games. Collins has also lost 209 games; this places him eleventh. He will move higher on that list as the rest of the season unfolds. His winning percentage is .454; this places him 9th on the list. Joe Frazier ranks directly above him with a .488 winning percentage.
Seaon-by-Season, his record looks like this:
2011: 162 games managed. 77 Wins. 85 Losses. A winning percentage of .475.
2012: 162 games managed. 74 Wins. 88 Losses. A winning percentage of .457.
2013: 59 games managed. 23 Wins. 36 Losses. A winning percentage of .390.
So what does that really mean?: It means Terry Collins is like a ham sandwich. Its ok but nobody is going to get too overly excited about it.
He isn’t a hometown hero like Buddy Harrelson. He doesn’t carry a sheer physical presence like Frank Howard. He hasn’t managed the team through any successful seasons like Davey Johnson. He hasn’t been the mentor of a pitching staff like Gil Hodges was. He has not overcome any significant adversity or developed any new innovation. On the other hand, he doesn’t have the lowest historical winning percentage and he is closing in on his 200th career victory.
In short, Collins will likely be remembered as a mediocre manager on a mediocre team. But hey, he’s a lot better than Mike Cubbage! There’s no comparison there.
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Too bad hes been dealt a bad hand thanks to the Wilpons…
Yes…I agree….He is a victim of Wilponics.
Only partly Jim. The terrible pen management and endless fundamentals mistakes are a sign of a poorly coached team IMO. Yes, he has not been much, but what those he has been given typically play pretty sloppy ball.
His mismanagement of the bull pen. His philosophy about lefties in the pen just make TC outdated and just a caretaker. No new ideas and poor fundamentals. This team is dead in the water and has tunes out TC. Why would you heed his advice? Everyone knows he’s gone at the end of the season if not sooner. Who is going to organize and reshape this roster? You need someone the players are going to respect and listen to. Then again you need qualified coaches who know how to get the most out of its players,
Yep. I also think he will be remembered for his bullpen mismanagement and his OBSESSION with lefties and LOOGY’s. Why else does he continue to use Scott Rice everyday when he has posted an ERA near 9 and walking nearly 5 batters per 9 and why was Robert Carson on the roster for more than a month? Absurd!
TC has done nothing positive to be remembered by. He is a placeholder for a bad team. He has been given no talent by the front office and he isn’t innovative enough to deal with the lack of talent.His poor use of the personnel given contributes to the poor showing. If they brought in someone new as interim manager, maybe there would be a change in the use of the personnel. Something needs to be done.
Ab interim manager is not the answer. We already have one. Whoever management chooses must be given a three year contract so that the players know he’s not going anywhere and has the backing of ownership. With that in mind who qualifies as the next New York Met manager?
Got me excited for a second,thought he was finally fired!!