Johan Santana looks to put the ugliness of last start behind him as he takes the mound for the Mets tonight versus the Nationals

Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:17 pm
First time thru: 0-9, second time:4-4
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:18 pm
This may turn out to be a Jon Niese kind of outing
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:19 pm
ugly real ugly
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:20 pm
what was the tape on the glove thing about?
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:46 pm
I’m not sure what to make of this outing. He had 3 perfect innings, and then 2 innings of 7 hit, 6 run ball
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:46 pm
All the damage came via the HR ball
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:47 pm
we giove up a lot of HR. johan is not “back”
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:48 pm
scotty running up his trade worth
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:48 pm
i wish he was part of the plans. i like him
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:49 pm
Well, now i’m for sure his first 3 innings was a mirage. When you need 50 pitches to get thru 9 perfect innings, you know you’re not fooling the hitters much
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:49 pm
And it guess it showed the 2nd time thru the order
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:49 pm
i mean 3 perfect innings
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:50 pm
yep. i agree
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:50 pm
still think its the ankle?
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:51 pm
yes. i think he is still probably compensating for his ankle by using his arm more, which isn’t all that strong to begin with.
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:52 pm
It’s why i think they should just shut him down and fully rest him for next year
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 8:56 pm
i dont like acosta or his delivery
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:58 pm
It’s mo’s delivery
Name

August 17, 2012 – 8:59 pm
Ok, only 3 runs downs. This is still winnable
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:00 pm
agreed. but DW needs to come to the party in a big way
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:01 pm
Hmm. According to Brian, they are 2-10 when giving up 6 runs… so not good odds, but not impossible
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:02 pm
Why did they pull Detweiler?
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:02 pm
Shoppach first HR as met!
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:03 pm
i hope that sparks the team
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:03 pm
Go Shop!!!
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:05 pm
i think that was a good trade.
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:06 pm
So far it’s still up in the air for me. Beato had promise, but Relievers are a dime a dozen.
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:07 pm
I think Beato was a disaster, I couldnt be happier hes gone. Id send Acosta and FF out too. They all blow.
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:08 pm
my patience has expired completely
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:08 pm
Beato was not a disaster. When he first came over he started with like a 18 inning scoreless streak
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:10 pm
Unless you’re Mariano Rivera, you never what what you’ll get from most relievers in any given year. That’s how fickle they are
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:10 pm
So i would at least see what Franky frank has got starting next year, then if he sucks, trade/release him
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:10 pm
And acosta is still cheap so he’s worth keeping
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:12 pm
But i’m not sure why TC wanted to use Acosta more than 1 inning… we’ve all seen how disastrous that can be
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:13 pm
Warthen, Hudgens even TC have gone off the rails
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:14 pm
A pen with an eRA over 5 has absolutely nothing redeeming
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:15 pm
not everyone, not ANYone is Mo. but this is outrageously bad
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:18 pm
Oh wow. How did they get to 5.10? Sunday night they were flirting with being the 2nd worst pen at
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:18 pm
4.90
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:20 pm
Phew. Acosta got thru his 2nd inning unscathed
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:20 pm
Ruby and Shop were huge!
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:25 pm
Hairston has had a big night so far
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:25 pm
lets hope for more
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:26 pm
not what i had in mind
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:30 pm
Mets have made a habit of losing the first 2 games of the series and then “salvaging” the final game
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:31 pm
which is very frustrating as a fan
Steevy

August 17, 2012 – 9:32 pm
I want everyone fired!
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:34 pm
understandable
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:35 pm
not everyone. Just TC
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:35 pm
and his crew
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:36 pm
Actually. I think we should have co-managers. TC can handle the lineup and the other guy can do pitching rotations/pitching changes
Steevy

August 17, 2012 – 9:38 pm
Not Alderson?
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:38 pm
What do you give our chances vs Clippard?
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:39 pm
I say 10% take lead, 20% tie, 40% get 1 run, 30% get no runs
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:41 pm
I would prefer Mike Baxter here, but TC wants to tie it up right here right now
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:41 pm
80% no runs
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:46 pm
JV-Clippard Round 3. LEgooo
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:49 pm
So round 3 ends in a walk.
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:49 pm
But we have our most discipline hitter up there now!
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:50 pm
gets complicated now. im hoping for BL
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:50 pm
BL?
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:50 pm
bases loaded…..but it doesnt matter
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:51 pm
night gents
Name

August 17, 2012 – 9:51 pm
Oh well. They’re 2-5 now, right on pace for the 3-6 i predicted
Chris F

August 17, 2012 – 9:51 pm
yep

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