NieseFrom all indications, the Mets spent a fair amount of time trying to trade a veteran starting pitcher this past offseason. The response from other teams was either low-ball offers or no offers at all, as they tried to pry loose Noah Syndergaard, instead. You can’t blame a team for trying to get Syndergaard. But you can blame them for missing the boat on Jon Niese. Here was a typical response, as reported by Andy Martino in the Daily News:

This winter, the Mets would argue that a talented, 28-year-old lefty with a team-friendly contract — $7, $9, $10, $11 million annually through 2018, with the final two years as club options — should bring value. And that might ultimately prove true, as the offseason progresses and trading partners lower their demands.

But as one official with a team who could be a fit with the Mets put it, “I think they underestimate the impact his injuries have had on perception. It’s not a team-friendly contract if he is on the D.L.”

Ah, perception. To seem, rather than to be. Niese made 30 starts last year, which teams chose to ignore, focusing instead on the time he spent on the disabled list. A full season with a five-man rotation is 32 starts, so it’s easy to see how much time he missed in 2014. Only 31 starters in the National League made more than 30 starts last year.

The naysayers may counter saying that his injury concerns were greater than just last year. Since 2010, only 10 pitchers in the NL have made more starts than Niese. Sure, he’s logged some DL time. But he’s also made 30 starts three times in the previous five years and he’s never made fewer than 24 in this time span.

Perhaps that speaks more to his toughness than to his health. Leaving aside that toughness is usually considered a good thing, Niese did seem to be pitching injured for a stretch last year. His first four starts after coming off the DL last year, Niese had a 5.76 ERA in 25 IP and looked like he was throwing beach balls up to the plate. Using perfect hindsight, a minor league rehab stint might have been helpful.

But after that point, Niese closed the year with a nine-game stretch that should have been viewed most favorably. He finished the year with a 3.19 ERA and a 1.247 WHIP. In his start against the Braves on September 20, he averaged 89.4 with his fastball with a high of 91.7. So, he was throwing just as hard at the end of the year as he did at the beginning.

Niese now has appeared in six games in the 2015 season. Adding those to what he did at the close of 2014, he has a 2.71 ERA in 96.1 IP with a 3.32 K/BB ratio. Not too shabby for a guy viewed as damaged goods.

It should also be pointed out that Niese is pitching better as the 2015 season has progressed. After allowing 9 BB and having 11 Ks in his first three starts covering 18 IP, Niese has allowed just 3 BB in his last 19 IP while fanning 14 in that stretch.

Certainly, Niese has benefitted from throwing four of his six games this year versus the Braves and Phillies. But he also had a nice game against the Nationals, so it hasn’t been all creampuffs that he’s succeeded against. And with his next three starts coming against the Cubs on the road, the league-leading Cardinals and the Pirates on the road, we should see greater challenges in his immediate future.

We’re all excited to see Syndergaard’s major league debut in a couple of days. But we should also be happy that the other MLB teams were so smitten with Syndergaard that they refused to consider trading for a guy like Niese, who currently sits fourth in the NL in ERA.

As fans, we’re not privy to all of the trade discussions that goes on between clubs. To the best of my knowledge, there’s been no disclosure of potential trades for Niese this past offseason that were nixed by either side. But we do know that following the 2013 season that the Mariners turned down an offer of Niese for Brad Miller.

Since that point, Miller has put up a .654 OPS and twice lost his job as the team’s starting shortstop. Perhaps one day, Miller will establish himself as a starting-caliber player. But in the meantime, Niese goes out there and gets results.

There’s nothing so alluring as potential, the guys we think can be great. It’s what’s so appealing about Syndergaard and, to a lesser extent, Miller. No one wants to be the GM that trades away an unproven player who turns out to be a superstar. That’s the kind of thing that gets a guy fired.

But while teams are chasing and hoarding potential, sometimes they neglect the guys who are performing right in front of our very eyes. They bend over backwards to dismiss the guys who are succeeding in the majors to chase the guys who might one day do the same.

Hey, the Mets turned down proven player Matt Joyce when they were shopping Ike Davis a few years ago. They were turned down when they offered Davis for the unproven Tyler Thornburg, who’s been the pitching equivalent of Miller since the start of the 2014 season. It’s not like that as Mets fans, we’re unfamiliar with this concept.

We should be glad that other teams found reasons to make Niese less valuable than he actually is. The unnamed source from the Martino article is right that it’s not a team-friendly deal if he’s on the DL. But, it sure is a bargain when he’s pitching the way he has over his last 15 starts. And combined with Bartolo Colon, another guy no one wanted this offseason, the Mets are getting great production from their veterans.

12 comments on “Jon Niese: Not on the DL and pitching great

  • Chris F

    Niece strikes me as a guy constantly on the bubble and presently avoiding the burst, but my fear is its coming. Whether that be injury or his ERA catching up with the 1.4 WHIP. Take last night. That 6-4-3 DP, which was beautiful but never gets made with Flroes at short, was key to Niese’s survival.

  • Brian Joura

    So, a DP turned by a guy not considered a great defender. I think that says more about Flores than Niese…

    • Chris F

      Nevertheless the best defender we have. I’d love to see him generate less traffic.

  • Metsense

    Niese is signed until 2018 and I would be comfortable going with him as my 5th starter until then. I won’t even blink if the Mets traded Syndergaard (or Matz) with Montero, Mejia and Flores for Tulo. It would solve the defensive and offensive problem at SS while trading players that are not currently contributing to the Mets first place position.
    Niese is underated but I appreciate his consistancy and durability. Nice article Brian.

  • Fast Freddy

    Why are you hating on his starts versus the Braves? They are one of the better teams in the NL in runs scored.

    • Brian Joura

      Yep, just because I think the Braves are doing it with mirrors doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. They’re fifth in the NL with a 4.53 rpg mark.

  • James Newman

    Great points Brian. Niese has always been a solid pitcher, but it looks like he’s taking his game to another level this season. I wonder what the Mets front office is going to do with all of this quality pitching.

  • Joe Vasile

    I highly doubt Niese keeps up his strong pitching for too much longer. His strikeouts are down, his walks are up, his GB% is 60.2%, 11 percentage points above his career average, his LOB% is over 80%. His ERA is 1.95, but his FIP is 3.84, xFIP 3.54, and SIERA 3.69. He is giving up more hard-hit balls than he has since 2010. It’s great while it’s going on, but the regression bug is going to hit him hard soon.

    • Brian Joura

      Much like with Cuddyer and Granderson, we can’t be overly influenced by what happened early with Niese which is out of line with both historical numbers and general expectations. Niese’s first three starts this year had K/BB numbers out of whack with what he’s done before – and perhaps even more importantly – what he’s done since.

      Niese’s strikeout numbers in his last three games has been *exactly* what he’s done the past two years. The outlier are his strikeout numbers his first three games. His walk numbers in his last three games (1.42 BB/9) is right in line with what he did his last nine starts of 2014 (1.67). Again, the outlier is what he did in the first three starts of the year.

      And his GB% is already regressing.

      Should anyone expect Niese to finish the year with a sub 2.00 ERA? Of course not. You shouldn’t expect anyone to finish with an ERA that low. But that 3.54 xFIP that you’re seemingly knocking? That’s the 28th-best mark in the majors right now.

      Not too shabby.

      • Joe Vasile

        I don’t mean to knock the xFIP number or really any of those numbers…especially out of a 4th starter that’s really good.

  • Matt Netter

    Niese’s health and performance have been a welcome surprise. Given his shoulder issues and mechanical flaws I’d be amazed if he can keep this up all season.

  • Steve S.

    If Syndergaard and Matz turn out to be the real thing, we’ve got Harvey, deGrom, Wheeler (by mid year), and those guys as next year’s rotation. Let’s say that we keep Niese around and let Colon go after his contract ends; then Gee becomes the guy who’s traded. I would be OK with that.

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