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We all do dumb things.
The greybeards among us are fortunate that the internet wasn’t around to capture our dumb things for the whole world to see. According to SNY, Marcus Stroman tweeted the following but has since deleted it.
“Just look at who the Mets hired as their GM… that tells you enough. His lack of awareness in his previous position is being exposed to the public now. I’m beyond thankful I’m gone from that organization. God got me!”
We all know Stroman wears his heart on his sleeve. Still, that doesn’t mean you should tweet every thought you have, every second you have one. Especially one that mentions a “lack of awareness.” My sincere hope is that Stroman learns some discretion while he’s in Chicago.
Still, it’s not going to be easy to replace Stroman’s 2021 production.
That is a very generous assessment of Stroman. I’ve wondered why the Mets didn’t resign him, but perhaps the attitude he expressed here and his readiness to state his views indiscriminately are why he’s gone. I wonder if we’ll ever know. There is so much that goes on behind the scenes that is not reported, nor could it be if reporters or players wanted access to the clubhouse. Still, it leaves us scratching our heads and griping online when some unexpected decisions are made.
When i first read that, I thought he was referring to Brodie lol.
Not all players care about their public image. And there’s nothing wrong or “dumb” about that.
It also doesn’t mean he didn’t enjoy his time or the fans. I’m sure we all have had jobs where we enjoyed our daily work and the people we directly interacted with, but despised upper management.
But he isn’t wrong. Brodie, Porter, Beltran, Callaway. The Mets organization has been a complete joke the past few years.
Well, in this case, at a time when it became crystal clear that the Wilpons would never pony up the money to retain Zack Wheeler, Brodie had the foresight to trade for Stroman w/ 2-plus years of team control. A great move, IMO. Too bad Covid hit and Marcus opted out in 2020, the same year Thor went down to TJ surgery. And too bad, also, that Stroman was mostly lousy in 2019 when he could have made a meaningful difference.
As James says above, I suspect that Stro was a handful, mercurial, and possibly divisive in the clubhouse (Zeile suggested as much in an interview). We know he was actively taking on “the media,” which did not project well in my eyes. On the field, in 2021, he performed. For whatever reasons, the Mets didn’t wish to outbid the Cubs (3/$71). I can’t blame them.
Good riddance. We all have opinions but Stroman’s sour grapes are from the lack of that great offer every player is expecting from Steve Cohen. Just like last year McNeil was bitter because they played hard ball with him, Conforto was expecting 6/$200, Stroman expected something
I for one will not miss his constant tying everything negative to his color. I would imagine that he was a distraction in the club with his constant harping and seeing everything through a color prism. Glad he went and is the Cubs problem now. Let’s see him duplicate 2021 numbers in Chicago.
As a card-carrying greybeard, I am forever grateful that the current digital world did not exist in my youth. While the advancements have enriched us all in many ways, the pitfalls are aplenty and in some cases very scarring.
Stro was fun to watch pitch and certainly within his rights to express himself. However, the temptations to tweet combined with the limitations of the platform make it a playing with fire venture, or adventure.
Stroman seemed to me to reach the absolute pinnacle of what he was capable of… a great season, and largely without controversy nor drawing attention to himself. Mets are very lucky in that regard.
Exactly why I felt he should not be overpaid for future years that would likely, imo, not being as fruitful nor as graceful.
I wish him well.
I find myself agreeing with everyone here.
Also — unlike, say, Wheeler — I never saw Stroman as a Game 7 type pitcher. The guy you give the ball when you’ve got to win. A good team will find a way to score three runs off him. That’s not terrible. In fact, that’s still valuable. But it’s not top tier in my book.
And it was probably all the outside stuff that was his undoing, because between the lines the Mets could still use one more starter just like him.
We will all be wishing for Stro when Walker and Carrasco disappoint, which they will, and we look to the likes of Pederson for capturing lightning in a bottle.
Its worth being clear that Eppler didnt really have a distinguished run in Anaheim, and certainly those in his sphere there dont make things look good. Right now he has the benefit of a deep pocket owner and zero games under his belt.
Twitter is a well known sewer where being empty headed is easy and dealing with the consequences are hard. Imagine the tales we would have of the 86 Mets team. As Name said, Im sure he doesnt care that much, but it was idiotic. I wish he was still in Queens. As for filtering things through being black. I guess youd have to walk a mile in his shoes before being able to have an informed perspective.
The Braves are owned by Liberty Media – a publicly traded company. Liberty Media is required to release detailed financial statements. Jeff Schultz from The Athletic looked into the statements and found this:
“The Braves posted a record $568 million in revenue from baseball and development (up from $178 million in the pandemic season 2020). The 2021 revenue far exceeded the previous record of the last pre-pandemic season of $476 million in 2019. This effectively amounted to a 2021 profit of $111 million (baseball and development combined) in adjusted operating income before depreciation and amortization (OIBDA, in geek-speak).”
Yes, they went to the World Series and should have made a lot of money. But did you think they would make over $100 million?
Liberty purchased the Braves for stock with a cash equivalent of just under $1.5 billion in 2007. The latest Forbes estimate, prior to last season, had the Braves worth $1.875 billion. The value is likely higher now.
Seems relevant, given the lockout and all.
I’m expecting to see a good season out of T.Walker. Half a good season after what he’s been through can easily lead to much longer effectiveness this year. Still, go out and get a top 3 starter, but I am certainly not figuring on being disappointed with Walker.
A solid… 11-7 / 160 IP / 3.45 / Wishful thinking?
I don’t see that as wishful thinking. I think it’s optimistic but reasonable, especially as you said given the strong first half he had. He’s proven he can pitch well and in NY. If the Mets do sign a third starter and Walker puts up those type of numbers they would be outstanding as a 4th starter. I’m with you Wobbit- expecting a strong season from Walker.
I am a bit more bullish on TW as well…not that you can bank on it, but he is more likely than not to be dependable.
The Mets still have needs but at over $260 in payroll I expect they will use some discretion. I’d prefer a starter who can provide innings with a more premium addition to the pen, as opposed to the opposite.
Friend of the site John From Albany has started his own website, which you can view here
https://metsnewsandlinks.blogspot.com/
Good luck, John!