This article is a companion piece to yesterday’s exploration into the likelihood of 25-year-old Christian Scott making the majors and being a success at his relatively advanced age as a prospect. Yesterday we looked at players making their MLB debut at age 25. Today, we’ll look at prospects at similar ages in Double-A to what Scott was last year (24) and when/if they made the majors. It’s a different way of looking at the issue and while we’re using the same time frame, we won’t have a complete overlap of our samples. There’s nothing wrong with that, you just need to be aware that it’s going on.
Let’s get right to it. Between the 2008-2012 seasons, there were 230 pitching seasons with at least eight starts in Double-A while being between the ages of 23-25. Of those, 53 were age 25, 98 were age 24 and 79 were age 23.
Age 25
Majors pre-25: 1
Majors 25+: 11
No Majors: 41
Age 24
Majors pre-25: 4
Majors 25+: 38
No Majors: 56
Age 23
Majors pre-25: 24
Majors 25+: 20
No Majors: 35
There are duplicate seasons, with the same pitcher making the list in more than one year. Let’s remove those, along with the ones who made their MLB debut, to get the number of individual pitchers, along with how many of those made it to the majors:
Duplicate Seasons: 18
Majors pre-25: 29
Beginning sample (230) – Duplicate Seasons (18) = 212 pitchers
Our 212 pitchers break down as follows:
29: Majors before 25
69 – Majors 25 or later
114: Never made the majors
Eliminating the 29 pitchers who made the majors before their age-25 season, we have 183 (212-29) in similar circumstances to Scott and 37.7% of them made the majors. And the vast majority of them didn’t see significant time in MLB. Only seven of those 183 pitchers (3.8%) made 50 starts in the majors.
This is great evidence for not getting excited about a random pitcher above the age of 22 in Double-A. But it’s not necessarily a good group to compare to Scott, who was great in his 12 starts last year in Binghamton at age 24, with a 2.47 ERA.
Let’s narrow it down even more, looking at pitchers with at least eight starts in Double-A and with an ERA of 2.75 or less at age 23-25. We have to expand our years to get a decent sample. FanGraphs has these minor league numbers dating back to 2006. So, we’ll start there and go thru 2019. That should still give our pitchers some time to make the majors. And even with this expanded number of years, we have a sample of just 34, an indication of how well Scott pitched last year after his promotion.
The first four columns after the “Name” column are what the player did in Double-A. After that is the age the player made his MLB debut and we finish up with games and starts in MLB.
Name | Age | G | GS | ERA | MLB Debut | MLB G | MLB GS |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Daniel McGrath | 24 | 27 | 15 | 1.68 | No | ||
Brian Johnson | 23 | 20 | 20 | 1.75 | 24 | 65 | 26 |
Kyle Hendricks | 23 | 21 | 21 | 1.85 | 24 | 247 | 246 |
Tyler Anderson | 24 | 23 | 23 | 1.98 | 26 | 174 | 166 |
David Martinez | 25 | 26 | 18 | 2.02 | 25 | 7 | 0 |
Eric Surkamp | 23 | 23 | 22 | 2.02 | 23 | 52 | 16 |
Matt Albers | 23 | 19 | 19 | 2.17 | 23 | 616 | 24 |
Trey Supak | 23 | 20 | 20 | 2.20 | No | ||
Chris Heston | 24 | 25 | 25 | 2.24 | 26 | 41 | 33 |
Tyler Wagner | 24 | 25 | 25 | 2.25 | 24 | 6 | 3 |
Elih Villanueva | 23 | 28 | 28 | 2.26 | 24 | 1 | 1 |
Corey Oswalt | 23 | 24 | 24 | 2.28 | 24 | 26 | 14 |
Gus Schlosser | 24 | 25 | 25 | 2.39 | 25 | 15 | 0 |
Joe Biagini | 25 | 23 | 22 | 2.42 | 26 | 222 | 22 |
Zack Brown | 23 | 22 | 21 | 2.44 | No | ||
Vidal Nuno | 24 | 20 | 20 | 2.45 | 25 | 155 | 42 |
Yender Caramo | 24 | 34 | 10 | 2.45 | No | ||
Matt Shoemaker | 24 | 23 | 23 | 2.48 | 26 | 128 | 115 |
Joe Martinez | 25 | 27 | 27 | 2.49 | 26 | 21 | 6 |
Phil Coke | 25 | 23 | 20 | 2.51 | 25 | 407 | 15 |
Grayson Long | 23 | 23 | 23 | 2.52 | No | ||
Douglas Arguello | 25 | 22 | 22 | 2.55 | No | ||
Zac Lowther | 23 | 26 | 26 | 2.55 | 25 | 11 | 6 |
Samuel Deduno | 25 | 24 | 24 | 2.57 | 26 | 83 | 44 |
Tom Koehler | 24 | 28 | 28 | 2.61 | 26 | 161 | 133 |
Michael Roth | 24 | 22 | 22 | 2.62 | 23 | 23 | 1 |
Steven Jackson | 24 | 24 | 24 | 2.65 | 27 | 51 | 0 |
Andy Sonnanstine | 23 | 28 | 28 | 2.67 | 24 | 132 | 80 |
Griffin Jax | 24 | 20 | 20 | 2.67 | 26 | 154 | 14 |
David Hernandez | 23 | 27 | 27 | 2.68 | 24 | 547 | 27 |
Ryan Hartman | 24 | 25 | 18 | 2.69 | 27 | 1 | 0 |
Tyler Lumsden | 23 | 20 | 20 | 2.69 | No | ||
Pedro Vasquez | 23 | 24 | 23 | 2.71 | No | ||
Mike Clevinger | 24 | 27 | 26 | 2.73 | 25 | 152 | 138 |
The good news for Scott is that the majority of these hurlers made the majors. Here’s how it breaks down by age at Double-A:
Age 25
Majors pre-25: 0
Majors 25+: 5
No Majors: 1
Age 24
Majors pre-25: 2
Majors 25+: 10
No Majors: 2
Age 23
Majors pre-25: 8
Majors 25+: 1
No Majors: 5
If we eliminate the 10 players who made their MLB debut before age 25, we have a sample of 24, where 16 made the majors at age 25 or later. Of those 16 players, four have made 50 starts in the majors. That’s a 25% hit rate before accounting for the survivor bias – higher than my expectations but not very encouraging. Clevinger had really good seasons in 2018-19, with a combined 8.7 fWAR in that span.
It’s not without precedent for someone in Scott’s situation to be a successful MLB pitcher. But no matter how we look at the question it’s tough to come away feeling like the odds are anywhere close in our favor of this working out in a really good way. His excellent results in Double-A certainly looks like a good omen for him making the majors. But we’re more likely to get another Oswalt rather than another Clevinger.
As Paul Harvey used to say (and yes, I am dating myself) “now you know the rest of the story.” Perhaps they turn Scott into a reliever. We sure need some good ones.