Chris Young tries to get back on track as the Mets look to bounce back from last night’s heartbreaking loss. Game time is 7:05
START 7/18 CHATTER
Who’s not bummed out about last night’s game? Must be everyone down on the frown.
I just made the kids homemade milk shakes – life is good
Wright hustles into a double
Greetings Brian
Hey Chris – thanks for joining!
Do you get the Nats or are you blacked out like me?
Missed u last night!
I Do
Yeah, I was stringing a game for the local paper.
I’m going to be a guest on Taryn Cooper’s podcast in a few minutes.
Mets haven’t been walking a lot recently. Maybe it’s time to change approach at plate
Let’s hope Young has it for a few innings this time out.
Save our season Chris Young!
There’s an ugly thought
Is Bryce Harper becoming a Met killer as well? We already have newcomer Rizzo this year
He is, much to my pain
How is Young looking tonight? I’m listening on the radio
Last time it looked like he couldn’t get loose
Zimmerman roped him for a 2b and LaRoache roped him for a 3 unassisted.
Both hit hard
thats why any talk of contention is long premature.
is it really 0-0 still, top 2?
I’m actually warming up to K-rod. Scary.
please…Im just so sick of harper
Bay K. Typical
I’m overheating for Broxton, K-Rod or Street!
looks like youre ahead of me tonight too. not as bad though. hope all is well name.
Hi metsense
Can’t hit lefties, can’t hit rights, probably can’t hit my grandma
Bay is the anchor that is going to sink this ship.
Maybe if The D-backs become sellers we could try K-rod/Putz Round 2
Sandy waited too long to pull the trigger
In Defense of Sandy, he thought the kids like Meija/Beato/Edgin could help. But he needs to do something now
I can’t give Sandy slack, as you said yourself, the problem was present in mid april
woa, a Chris Young caught stealing
don’t see that too often
OK back from the podcast – are we winning?
I guess. Chris Young got a Double play AND caught stealing
not losing!
It’s not horrible but the Nationals radio broadcast not the best I’ve ever heard.
Mets have only 1 hit, but has Zimmerman’s pitch count already at 50
Watching on Nat feed and the announcers are bad and boring.
Zimmermann seems to be the guy who can’t get wins despite great peripherals. Perhaps the high pitch counts early explains some of that.
Maybe next year they can get decent announcers because they will actually have a good rep
Good point Brian. Young has been worse than Zimmerman yet they might have the same pitch count or even a bit lower when this inning ends.
There’s no reason for an MLB club to have poor announcers. The job’s not easy but there’s got to be 30 competent play by play guys in the country.
I switched over to the Mets’ announcers.
I’m just saying, if the Yankees and Nationals offered you a job with the same money and you have any regional bias, you’re probably not going with the Nats.
I usually enjoy the out of town feed because it gives me a different perspective on the Mets.
Not so with the Nats
If only the Yankees would hire some good announcers, especially for radio…
I understand that you don’t want to constantly change announcers but some teams are wayy too comfortable with mediocre broadcasters
So you like Josh Lewin?(is that how you spell his last name?)
He’s better than Wayne Hagin
And he seems open to advanced stats.
Don’t like his voice very much, though.
Maybe that’s why teams don’t change announcers. It’s hard to get used to someone else’s voice after hearing the same people for a long time
hooray
When the players no longer have continuity, keeping announcers past their expiration date is a way for the fans to keep touch.
DW:2-2, everyone else:0-10. maybe thats why they are having trouble scoring
Coming into tonight, Mets had a .731 OPS since the All-Star break. Their team OPS before the break was .727
http://firewaynehagin.blogspot.com/ –> It’s quite hilarious
Oh, I know that one!
Yea. Maybe i shouldn’t be blaming the offense. It’s not the one that can’t hold leads late nor is it giving up 5 runs in an inning
Howie talking about going to the Bronx Zoo
Should Torres have caught that?
no
His UZR/150 this year is only 5.7, so much for his defense
What was Pagan’s last year? Bet it was in negative numbers.
-16.1 last year, -9.3 this year. His bat this year worth it?
minus 16.1 for Pagan last year.
no. regardless of CF issues, Im glad hes gone. Clubhouse problem
I’m not sure how much he’s being paid. FG has him as essentially average
Need to write a 2nd look at the Pagan-Torres & Ramirez deal.
Tough call on ball 4
I’m ready for another Bay K this inning.
Hey 170 – welcome and thanks for joining us.
I remember like after 1 week Torres came people were calling the trade “a win” because he was hitting over .300 Not so anymore
no. but we did get a chance to audition Capt Kirk, and that was good money
But now both are struggling and Pagan is doing OK
true, but pagan would be scuffling in ny, bad fit IMO
Yea, that’s true. You can’t assume he would have the same season if he played here
For me the key was Ramirez and he’s been disappointing.
Of course it would help if he was being used differently
The key was Ramirez, but it’s easier to compare Torres/Pagan and then use Ramirez to break a tie
Jason Bay
16M$ paid off right there!@
Was that a solid line drive? or just a seeing eye hit?
At the end of his contract we’ll have to see how much Bay made per single
just a garden variety single
Well. Making contact is progress for Bay.
Howie’s talking about the Beato-Thole wild pitch thing. Should Thole have blocked it?
he did have a nice slide into 2B to break up the dp
didnt see it brian. thankfully my connection dropped so i failed to see it
Wow nice catch
No. It wasn’t an easy block.
my first reaction was the blame it on beato, not thole
Got it – thanks
Blame it on Beato sounds like an internet meme
Hope i don’t jinx them. But SP turning things around?
did i cause the HBP?
Are we up to the third time through the order yet?
almost. Pitcher up next
evening gents
Welcome 753
So, do Mets start getting the bullpen ready when the next inning starts?
It’s a tough call. Young 3rd time around or go with the 5.00 ERA bullpen?
Welcome tim!
is Young going get pinch hit for?
I’d hope to get him thru 6 innings. Probably wouldn’t let him pitch the 7th.
I really need Duda to start hitting. Have a rather huge investment.
So it looks like he’ll get to start the 6th
and it pays off
Duda’s lucky he’s not being sent to Triple-A at this point.
So, how much money did you spend on him?
If someone is going to minors, it’s going to be Valdespin, then next in line is Kirk
I own him in at least 8 leagues
On my bench for now but he could be a big help. Had visions of 25-100 back in early March
Can you imagine the outcry if they sent JV down right now?
if the mets don’t score this inning…
nice AB by tejada
How many pitches is Zimmermann up to now?
88 pithces
So this is probably his last inning.
i’m not sure if they normally let him go past 100
C’mon Wright
hmmm, free pass for david?
id walk him
rats
another leadoff double wasted
does that outfield look tiny?
Jonathan Sanchez was DFA yesterday. Worth a flier?
nope
I’d gamble on Dan Straily right about now. Kid should get the call soon and really like what I’m seeing
who? i’ve never heard of him
lol, you will soon. Leading the minors in K’s
K’s 13 in last outing. Oakland system
An A’s prospect? i’m not talking about fantasy
sorry
so do you think sanchez is worth a flier for the Mets?
If Sanchez would agree to go to the minors I wouldn’t mind taking a flier on him.
Agreed with Brian
I’m sure Dan Warthen could fix him in 15 minutes!
He has some rather serious problems that need working out. If he wants to work towards those in the minors a decent roll of the dice
He’s basically Oliver Perez 2.0
There are enough names being bandied about, you’d think the Mets could find a SP somewhere
C’mon Perez was from Mexico and Sanchez is from the DR — they’re nothing alike
What’s up, looks like the same game from last night
Time to go to the pen?
So, what’s Harper batting against us now?
Hey Batman – Mr. Wayne – welcome back
I was refering to the fact that Sanchez walks the world like Perez, but has great stuff
no late games tonight. something different
I seem to chat with you guys after every tough loss
I knew what you meant. I was hoping they were both from Mexico and wasn’t willing to let that particular “joke” go…
You must be chatting with us a lot, then.
haha
Yes Young! You’re one out away from your first scoreless outing of the year!
Young with a big strikeout – didn’t see that one coming.
so when do we get to see Harvey Brian
I figure Batista gets two starts. If he pitches poorly in both then Harvey comes up.
If Young doesn’t get LaRoche, i hope we go to the pen
who?
k, tks
so in two starts we probably see him, lol
Hey now!
Batista actually has done well for the Mets as a SP.
yes, just not a big fan
1 strike away!
weve seen that before!
Guess we missed a good time for Byrdak…
In 2012 no one is a big fan of Batista
Well, can’t say i’m surprised about that
Man, Young has not done well in 7th inning
hasn’t collins learned anything about Young and his struggles 3rd time around the order?
oh wait it’s the 6th
but through the 3rd time
Wow, Cody Ross having a big night…and Ellsbury
Hopefully we can break thru against the Nats’ pen.
Are we rewinding last night?
What did you think of the Crawford-Hanley Ramirez rumor that was going around earlier?
insane
I was thinking that the Marlins would never take that contract
yes, insane. Buster start that one?
where is hte Marlins upside?
I think Buster debunked it
I think I’d rather have Crawford than Ramirez going forward
no upside I can see with the Marlins side of that one. Not with that contract. He’s a REd Sox until the Angels need a partner for Vernon Wells
I’d rather have Ramirez. That extra money can buy you a whole pitching staff
yes
Replace Bay with valdespin now? i’m not sure he’ll get up again in the 9th unless the mets put up some sort of fight
Bell-
Bell-Ramirez combine for $24 million per year.
scary stuff that is
I didn’t like that Bell signing right from the get go but I guess Loria had to spend some of the Yankees money
There’s a Duda hit for you, Tim
Finally, something got through
Bell/Reyes signings weren’t great, Buerhle was a decent investment
seemed as though the Nats were catching everything
Rally killer Bay comin up
yes, now let’s see if Bay can get it done
He can still hit LHP
I smell an odd DP coming up
liner to 2b would do it
but I’m an optimist and Bay will drive him in
good on ya tim…this is too much like a flashback
deja vu all over again?
Bay is hitting 241 against LHP
nvm he is hitting 160
but at least he has a 290 obp vs lefties
going to sit down for something to eat, enjoy the rest of the game
oops, guess I called that one wrong
Coming into tonight .603 OPS overall and .690 vs LHP
Thanks AC – join us any time
great game by Young. just one mistake.
I’m amazed he’s even pitching
I’m ready to sign up for 6 IP, 2 ER each time
Ill take 5 2/3 and no ernies!
that will win a lot more games than lose
can torres come thru as a RH?
nice
We can score
lol
Would Duda have scored if he didn’t draw the throw?
good use of the emoticons
very shakespearean
the way Clippard has been pitching of-late if they can stay close heading into ninth they have a good shot
Is Drew Storen coming back anytime soon?
yes, very soon
weekend I believe but coming back into setup role until Clippard struggles
Collins has signaled the white flag-Miguel Batista
I predict a scoreless inning
does he get a drive out to the mound?
what kind of leverage is this setting?
takes a while crossing the outfield with a walker I heard
If Batista is responsible for bringing back the bullpen car – that will only add to his legacy.
lol
1-run game in the 7th inning is pretty high
well unfortunately have to dash. apparently our washing machine is washing floors right now and the better half not impressed. take care guys and we’ll catch ya later!
good luck
At the start of the inning down one run in b7th, LI is 1.9
Thanks for dropping by tim – good luck with the washer
Tks guys.
please Batista. Scoreless inning just this once?
thx brian
Would a real RF have caught it?
Would a real relief pitcher have pitched a scoreless inning?
I thought it was a HR
could the Mets lose 10 straight?
That is exactly why you don’t bring in batista for relief
Either use him as a SP or long relief in a blowout win or loss, that’s it
or extra-inning game
Thats not worth a roster spot
Tell that to Sandy
Im trying.
Harper an out? Finally?
dont bet on it!
I understand batista needs to prep for his Sat start, but you don’t do that in a close game in the 7th
Im wrong. thankfully.
Another example of Collin’s bad bullpen usage
Who would you have preferred to see there?
At the very least I would want Ramirez in the 7th.
Rauch, if he is available tonight
So who does Valdespin come in for in the 9th? Duda?
No, he’ll come in for the pitcher or Bay
if 1 more batter reaches he can come in for Bay
I guess thats really the question Brian. I cant think of anyone we have right now.
Bring back the 2 out magic Murph!
I hope we dont lose Q on waivers
I’d rather see Beato come on in the beginning of the inning. I guess he would have been a possibility.
Honestly, anyone BUT batista would have been fine with me
walk and a blast here?
No such luck
so much for that
i gather were done
most likely it’s gonna be a 6th straight loss
with the season on the line
these pesky (g)nats
Coming into tonight Murhpy had 1 BB in 63 PA
good one name
Of course he had a .393 AVG in that span, so it’s hard to be too down on Murphy
look the braves dumped 7 in a row earlier, so this isnt the worst, but if this becomes a mindset, i fear aug 1.
im not down on Murph. i see him as solution not problem
most teams are going to lose 5-6 at some point in the season, but this is a bad time to do it
not that there is any “good” time to do it
I’m not devastated by 7 in a row but the fact that we can’t beat the Braves in ATL or the Nationals anywhere is a huge concern.
Ill tell ya, listening to Mike Ferrin today, he was D O W N on the Mets. Pretty much called the club a laugher.
Who is Mike Ferrin?
for sure brian.
He and Jim Duquette have a radio show on MLB radio
Well, he has to exaggerate everything to make good radio.
So he’s a national(not the team) guy?
Will Rauch complain about Nickeas now?
no…just a guy.
yes, “national” as in nation wide
i meant, does he do a national radio show?
unreal
yea, those guys don’t know squat about any 1 team. They are complete jokes
yes. well as far as mlb radio goes. not sure if its syndicated
In my mind, if you don’t watch at least 50% of a team’s game, you really have no right making a judgement about that team
It’s almost impossible for national guys to meet that threshold.
And that’s why i don’t listen to those types of people. I”ll stick with beat writers and announcers
Duquette was good tho, as I suppose he should
and bloggers!
indeed…Ive learned A LOT here
and found suffer partners
right. And active fans, that’s a decent source too.
you have a beat writers checklist?
Adam Rubin from ESPN is good. So is Andy Martino
Howard Megdal
Yeah, I read Adam and DiComo daily
Megdal is great
The people from Metsblog are good as well
listened to a 45 minute interview with him and it was amazing
Who from MetsBlog impresses you?
I like John Harper too.
I like DW
one for each base
there you go
I had Howard on a podcast this past offseason. I’ll have to get him on again.
I liked the one with Mack
now valdespin can hit for bay
Mack knows his minor league guys and has some sources the rest of us don’t.
was good value. Im learning a lot about the youngin’s here
not mate it to Kingsport yet tho
Tell me what you think of Cecchini when you do.
will do. u know when season ends?
Last home game is August 28th.
lets hope duda can get on for valdespin
Well there’s something none of us saw coming
Once again the game is going to be decided on batista’s runs
Wow Clippard 3 Hr in 2 days.
that was funny…Im sure TC is happy
Imagine if they DIDN”T use BATISTA. OMG I HATE BATISTA
I don’t think he’ll get it done tonight. Just too much to ask
Brian, Can you do a piece on Batista and the losses decided on the runs he gave up in relief?
well gents, there is always tomorrow. Im going to a Tacoma Raniers game!
I’ll look into it name and see if there’s anything there. Might be my Sunday column.
Tomorrow is a day game. I’ll set up the chatter but not sure if I’ll be around for it or not.
Good night fellas
Just a quick note. This is eerily similar to the last series at Washington. A crazy 1st game followed by a clean loss.
And then for the last game RA was able to win, let’s hope he can win tomorrow
And for the middle game, LaRoche had the big HR, just like this game. Crazy coincidence
Well. I’m depressed but i should be around tomorrow
ill be on a plane out west. bring a win for us name!