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First off, apologies for no article yesterday. My back seized up on me and sitting upright in a chair just wasn’t an option.
As for the Mets, word came down that they were cutting ties with Zack Scott. Perhaps it was their only option, given the PR backlash that might have happened otherwise. Still, my hope was that he was going to be back with the team in some capacity other than GM. That’s not the role he was hired for and it seemed that they should have been able to have him in some behind-the-scenes capacity without drawing the ire of the mainstream press.
When people make mistakes, they should be penalized for them. But not every mistake should result in termination. Maybe some of you have some ordered list of the worst transgressions or mistakes that merit a firing. I don’t. However, assuming this is an isolated incident from Scott, it seems to me one that deserves heavy “correction” but not one that merited cutting ties completely.
Perhaps there are other incidents that didn’t make it to the press. Maybe the Mets felt that a new GM or PoBO would somehow be threatened by Scott’s presence. It just seems to me that Scott had some value to offer the organization and they should have tried the public apology/donate money/reassign to a lower role route with him, instead.
Do not offer Noah a QO. Instead offer a make good contract with incentives for innings pitched.
From a business standpoint it would likely have helped to have Scott there…I agree on levels of “punishment” but it is not possible to make a judgment on fairness of dismissal without knowing the full picture.
That said, I don’t think it is a fair punishment to have to endure a Braves WS victory. That is excessively cruel and inhumane in these parts. But, as mom said, life isn’t fair.
I don’t think it is a fair punishment to have to endure a Braves WS victory. That is excessively cruel and inhumane in these parts. But, as mom said, life isn’t fair.
Amen brother.
Actually; once the playoff field was established, the only team I hoped would win were the Braves. I’ve always admired the way they ran their franchise, and I’m not jealous of them at all.
I just can’t understand why some organizations; like the Cardinals and Braves, have such an enduring record of competency, while so many don’t. Perhaps since I was born in Manhattan, I could just as easily been a Yankees fan, but the influence of my grandfather (a Brooklyn Dodgers fan who embraced the newest NL entry in 1962), held greater sway.
I’ve no regrets of being a fervent follower of the ‘Amazins since 1964/1965, but man they are so frustrating!
I too thank and blame my late grandfather for introducing me to the Mets as a substitute for his dearly departed Dodgers. It’s been quite a ride but also wished they would win a little bit more often.
As much as I hated to see the Braves win, I would’ve hated to see the Astros win even more.
I was rooting for Dusty Baker…that’s it
G’bye,Jeff McNeil, you were my favorite player for a while. Bet you do well with your new team.
Woodrow, maybe… I wonder how much of the pushback dealing with McNeil’s refusal to work with Lindor on the positioning was from McNeil not getting the raise he wanted while Lindor got $341MM.
On one hand, I hope McNeil can grow up a bit and I am glad to hear Rojas benched him for his unwillingness to conform to the team resolve. But, on the other hand it doesn’t give Lindor the opportunity to feel he has the right to be an a-hole. It’s kind of why many people don’t want Baez. Besides the strikeouts, will the two prima donnas co-exist with anyone else?
I hope they keep McNeil and this can be nipped in the bud by a stronger manager that will address it the minute it happens the first time and not let McNeil feel that he can go rogue on defense, although it does appear that Rojas tried.
The Mets gave Lindor $34m a year for lead the team on the field and be veteran presence in the clubhouse. McNeil was wrong defying the coaches and manager with the shift positioning. Lindor handled the situation in the tunnel because he thought he was paid to do that and was also pissed off at McNeil. Lindor was immature handling the press with the explanation. Rojas didn’t handle the situation in the press any better. Later in the season, Lindor was in the middle of the thumbs down controversy. He again was immature and wasn’t the veteran presence that the front office thought he was. Again, Rojas didn’t handle the situation. There was alot of mistakes. Rojas is gone. McNeil might out in door. Lindor is not a clubhouse leader yet (and might never be) and the front office made a mistake by shelling out $34m a year when they could have waited a year and had their pick of shortstops and probably would have better terms on the shortstop contract.
As always, it’s tough to reach any clear conclusions without all the info. What info there is suggests that McNeil was primarily at fault, perhaps based on some resentment, although it is unclear who initiated the physical component… although that was very brief.
Every team and group of people have some issues, it’s human nature, despite what is portrayed. Hopefully, as is the case with everyone, learnings help foster improvements.
I’ve said before, there is zero chance I’d have given Lindor that deal prior to him actually playing in NYC. But, I’m a random Joe Sixpact and not a hedgefund manager worth $14+ billion. But, I think it’s fair to pin that on “the front office”. That was clearly an ownership move. I am optimistic that Lindor will grow into his role/status with the team, despite some mistakes and immaturity, he has a lot of good qualities. However, I’m a little iffy on the Baez effect if reunited. I’m not opposed, but it reinforces the need for a strong seasoned manager…not so much to “keep them in line” but more to facilitate and their growth as veteran team leaders in the fish bowl of NYC.
This was not a fun post season to watch. I had an issue with the four remaining teams, and I can’t stand hearing the Braves’ fans mimicking what they think is a native American song… just sounds stupid.
Meanwhile, back here in Metsville, things look fairly bleak. They need an eraser to wipe the slate clean and then we’d have some fun. A few payers have legitimate reasons to remain, They are:
Nimmo
deGrom
Alonso
Lindor (contract)
McCann (contract)
Megill
Walker
Loup
‘ts about it…
I would see keeping, if need be:
JDDavis
Guillorme
Peraza
Pillar
Lugo
Syndergaard
Peterson
So that leaves, expendable:
Dom
McNeil
Stroman
Carrasco
Nido
Conforto
Villar
Get on the phone!
Oh yeah, nobody home to make the calls…
Bleak.
https://www.sny.tv/articles/ranking-mets-biggest-offseason-priorities-2021-22
An incredibly honest point of view from the ballplayer’s perspective by Michael Conforto, who I hope can stay on the Mets on a deal that is more real to his value than to the blown up value his agent thinks he should get. A couple of points that will stay with me amongst all the good stuff:
Conforto says that pitching, clutch hitting and defense is the way to win for the Mets, and it worked early in the year but didn’t happen later on. He’s absolutely correct.
Conforto says that NY is a tough market to play in because of the extra pressure that players on other teams don’t have to deal with, but when you win, there’s no place better.
My feeling is Cohen needs to figure out what players have a strong enough personality to handle NY and not look for choir boys like the Wilpons used to. It appears that Conforto is simply being honest and while he loves the team and the city, may want to experience some more tranquil environments.
Question, if Lindor hadn’t signed that deal in March, does he stay on the Mets and deal with all the extra pressures? We flat out know Scherzer won’t, how many others won’t?
Pay them and they’ll come.
Conforto has declined the QO and the Mets will get a supplementary draft choice when a team signs him. The Mets should now pushed hard to sign Bryant for RF. (6/180m) He is an impact right-handed bat and he is versatile. Suzuki, the Japanese star, should also be signed (MBLTR estimates 5/11m) and then Bryant could play 3B until Batty or Vientos is ready and then move to LF.
I think its worth nothing the deferment of blame to “NYC” as to why the Mets cant hire a POBO is complete BS. This is more complete fabrication from the master reverse-double-talking liar he is.
Cohen should fire Alderson and his kin today to show the world that whoever takes over, takes over for real, not under some suspicious cloud of the Alderson puppeteer.
Fire. Alderson. Now.